tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post2671555744878911747..comments2023-11-03T06:24:22.342-07:00Comments on Cog: I'm Just Listen'n to Cold Wind Whistl'nScothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-44919124887935457522008-11-07T09:11:00.000-08:002008-11-07T09:11:00.000-08:00"Ok, I think I'm going through an anger phase now...."Ok, I think I'm going through an anger phase now. Mostly at people of a certain religion and how they dares to act like martyrs in response to the protests and such."<BR/><BR/>:-) yeah, I know what you're saying. I posted on it at <A HREF="http://isocrat.org/blog/?p=247" REL="nofollow">isocrat's blog</A>.Scothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-76410988890084801052008-11-07T09:10:00.000-08:002008-11-07T09:10:00.000-08:00Hey, and thank you all for the kind words again. ...Hey, and thank you all for the kind words again. I want you to know it does help.Scothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-34283271392542678202008-11-07T09:09:00.000-08:002008-11-07T09:09:00.000-08:00jgw "Your posts yesterday and today have been a co...jgw "Your posts yesterday and today have been a comfort to me. "<BR/><BR/>As have you posts been for me. I'm glad we have this resource.<BR/><BR/>"I do believe there is a cosmic balance though. There will be a setting right, I am certain."<BR/><BR/>I can feel that too. Just impatience for balance.<BR/><BR/>Sarah, thank you so much.<BR/><BR/>q.u. "forgive me scot i dont know where in Utah you are but,"<BR/><BR/>It's funny I first learned about this from you when I do live in the SLC area. You are on the ball :-). I just posted about this.<BR/><BR/>Cadence "who else is going?"<BR/><BR/>Count us as a maybe.<BR/><BR/>Ophidimancer: <BR/>"Keep your hopes up, Amendments like Prop 8 have been passing in many states for a number of years now, but I think the size of the margin in California speaks of a major slowing down of this hateful anti-gay wave."<BR/><BR/>Java:<BR/>"The only encouraging thing I see in the whole Propaganda 8 mess is the close margin by which it passed. "<BR/><BR/>That's exactly where I'm trying to keep focus. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Dave: Thank you<BR/><BR/>"Those states are fine but they definitely didn't feel like home to me. However, I've always wanted to live in California and I thought it was such a tolerant state."<BR/><BR/>I know exactly what you mean. Except for us Ca was our home for a couple years; we could've have easily moved there.<BR/><BR/>"Proposition 8 passing shows me that that isn't true. "<BR/><BR/>I hope they get another chance in a couple years. They were fooled from a 17 point rejection of marriage discrimination with lies and scare tactics. All that can be addressed in time... I hope...Scothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-48920167061509037022008-11-07T09:03:00.000-08:002008-11-07T09:03:00.000-08:00Ok, I think I'm going through an anger phase now. ...Ok, I think I'm going through an anger phase now. Mostly at people of a certain religion and how they <B>dares</B> to act like martyrs in response to the protests and such.<BR/><BR/>I . . I just will stop there.Ophidimancerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04460486117666728362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-17681502204809033952008-11-07T08:59:00.000-08:002008-11-07T08:59:00.000-08:00Thank you an welcome out of lurker status rowan."B...Thank you an welcome out of lurker status rowan.<BR/><BR/>"BUT how could you want to stay somewhere knowing what the maj have a) done or b) think of your family??"<BR/><BR/>I don't know we will, and we viscerally don't want to stay right now, but are letting it sit before we decide in frustration. I can understand how it may seem like a clear cut decision. All I can say is that, from my shoes, there's a lot pulling my family in different directions.<BR/><BR/>"How will the kids feel when they grow up and know that their aunts, cousins etc voted to stop they greatest people they love and know be together?"<BR/><BR/>Probably conflicted, just like their pop and dad. Fortunately, a terribly small percentage of the extended family voted in Ca; many more did give support though.<BR/><BR/>"how would he feel if he knows you could've been REALLY married but some of his parents friends/families or his relatives stopped this??"<BR/><BR/>We've tried to be clear about this, on their level, and he understands a bit. But he also knows a real marriage is bigger and far more important than any document or the rights. We made it clear last August, when we were married in Ca, that we did it to be able to better protect our family, legally, and that it wasn't our actual marriage taking place. Still, I know, there are some tough lessons about life and people ahead.<BR/><BR/>"Good luck whatever you do! :)"<BR/><BR/>Thank you again.Scothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-69340064472650113292008-11-07T08:46:00.000-08:002008-11-07T08:46:00.000-08:00MoHoHawaii "It's only day 2. I'm sure you will bou...MoHoHawaii "It's only day 2. I'm sure you will bounce back."<BR/><BR/>I know, I always do :-).<BR/><BR/>"Do the churchgoing members of your extended family read your blog? "<BR/><BR/>Hmm, do you, churchgoing members of my extended family? <BR/><BR/>I don't know. I know some nieces and nephews peak in here and at isocrat.org to get material with school papers. But non of their parents have mentioned being here.<BR/><BR/>Craig "All I can say right now is, "bloody hell.""<BR/><BR/>Not true. I saw your post; you could say bloody f*bleep*ing hell.<BR/><BR/>Paul, thank you so much. I know we'd be nowhere anywhere without people like yourself on our side.Scothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-72895571736543274872008-11-07T07:30:00.000-08:002008-11-07T07:30:00.000-08:00Kip and I interviewed in MA and CT for residency b...Kip and I interviewed in MA and CT for residency but didn't end up getting placed there even though we ranked the programs there higher than where we ended up. I have no doubt if we lived there we'd be getting married in a couple of years. Those states are fine but they definitely didn't feel like home to me. However, I've always wanted to live in California and I thought it was such a tolerant state. Proposition 8 passing shows me that that isn't true. It was in California that I first realized being in a gay relationship was ok because when I was like 12 my family and I went to Disneyland and I saw a cute gay couple holding hands there. This is so heart wrenching. My thoughts are with you and your HUSBAND! :)Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16862274589875018300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-9565270466347661342008-11-07T06:53:00.000-08:002008-11-07T06:53:00.000-08:00The only encouraging thing I see in the whole Prop...The only encouraging thing I see in the whole Propaganda 8 mess is the close margin by which it passed. <BR/><BR/>I am sad, frustrated, and angry about the civil-sanctioned mistreatment of our homosexual brothers and sisters.Javahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17377033663576614925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-80044421734615424492008-11-06T23:39:00.000-08:002008-11-06T23:39:00.000-08:00We soldier on and I know that we will overcome, bu...We soldier on and I know that we will overcome, but this is a war of hearts and faith and our poor families stand to be casualties.<BR/><BR/>Keep your hopes up, Amendments like Prop 8 have been passing in many states for a number of years now, but I think the size of the margin in California speaks of a major slowing down of this hateful anti-gay wave.Ophidimancerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04460486117666728362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-52140399776180070702008-11-06T22:14:00.000-08:002008-11-06T22:14:00.000-08:00yeah I saw it on the news tonight... the thing tha...yeah I saw it on the news tonight... the thing that gets me is the churches responses to things... there so insulting... as for the protest I don't know if ill go... who else is going?Cadencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14678644975979787364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-53249643270961535702008-11-06T19:42:00.000-08:002008-11-06T19:42:00.000-08:00forgive me scot i dont know where in Utah you are ...forgive me scot i dont know where in Utah you are but,<BR/><BR/>No to Prop 8/ Marriage Equality Protest - Friday Nov 7., 6pm @ Temple Square (State/S.Temple) SLC, UtahQueers Unitedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074493276489593816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-47111555567646676902008-11-06T17:24:00.000-08:002008-11-06T17:24:00.000-08:00I've been thinking a lot about your family since I...I've been thinking a lot about your family since I met you Sunday and the since the election results have come in. I've shared your story with people at work, and I am crying with you.<BR/><BR/>Hang in there. I hope that someday things will change! <BR/><BR/>Our family is praying for you and for all of us.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765524620705643823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-55186126850669092252008-11-06T16:25:00.000-08:002008-11-06T16:25:00.000-08:00Your posts yesterday and today have been a comfort...Your posts yesterday and today have been a comfort to me. I've been going through much the same feelings, in spite of my best efforts to put a good face on things.<BR/><BR/>It's just wrong what they've done, just plain wrong.<BR/><BR/>I do believe there is a cosmic balance though. There will be a setting right, I am certain.John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-85885254092291860662008-11-06T16:22:00.000-08:002008-11-06T16:22:00.000-08:00Oh god, I couldn' imagine how you feel-well I can ...Oh god, I couldn' imagine how you feel-well I can slightly as I too am from a religous family...<BR/><BR/>And although I check this site all the time because of it's good and engaging writing, I don't post often-AT ALL.<BR/><BR/>But I feel like with what's happened in Cali that I had to. <BR/><BR/>I know UTAH is beautiful....and your parents are soo amazing BUT how could you want to stay somewhere knowing what the maj have a) done or b) think of your family?? How will the kids feel when they grow up and know that their aunts, cousins etc voted to stop they greatest people they love and know be together?<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure whether it's Brian-but I think it is-he LOVES the fact that you ARE marriage and together while all his friends parents are divorcing....how would he feel if he knows you could've been REALLY married but some of his parents friends/families or his relatives stopped this??<BR/><BR/>It's harsh, I know but I really agree with your hubby-maybe you need to do this to make your relatives realise their actions and how they've hurt you. Yeah, it's a form of protest but....<BR/><BR/>Good luck whatever you do! :)<BR/><BR/>Rowan (from the UK)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-70325106095359079392008-11-06T15:16:00.000-08:002008-11-06T15:16:00.000-08:00I got up yesterday and started searching for the C...I got up yesterday and started searching for the California results ... too close to call, maybe no, maybe yes ... and then found a definite answer. And I immediately started thinking of your and your family. <BR/><BR/>I support you where ever you are!Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11877772974936424670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-65976491631615477062008-11-06T11:39:00.000-08:002008-11-06T11:39:00.000-08:00All I can say right now is, "bloody hell."All I can say right now is, "bloody hell."Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09374110841642375968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33131983.post-13790815128433408922008-11-06T09:08:00.000-08:002008-11-06T09:08:00.000-08:00It's only day 2. I'm sure you will bounce back.Do ...It's only day 2. I'm sure you will bounce back.<BR/><BR/>Do the churchgoing members of your extended family read your blog? Just curious.MoHoHawaiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086670779804942122noreply@blogger.com